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Post by endo on Aug 10, 2013 12:31:07 GMT -5
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Post by NDX on Aug 10, 2013 13:22:00 GMT -5
Oh, if only. If only. What could have been, right? This would have been amazing. Him in NJPW facing Jushin Liger and The Great Muta... I won't lie, that belt looks good on him. As much as I hate Orton, he'd be a perfect fit for TNA and bring them a true fanbase. OH GOD I WISH! This would easily happen if Magnus was in the 'E. Easily. He'd get pushed through that glass ceiling where Wade Barrett keeps barraging it. With his face. One day, dammit! KINGS REIGN SUPREME! If Hero gets his ish together. SOON! SOON! SOON! Hopefully one day.
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Post by endo on Aug 10, 2013 18:28:21 GMT -5
I remember back when I still watched all the time wondering when Sting was going to show up in the WWF/E, I just don't think he cares for Vince and has stuck to his guns. He's had to have gotten offers from Vince at some point.
I don't know about Hogan as the NWA/WWF unified champ. When he arrived in the WWF I immediately saw the NWA and the WWF as two distinctly different organizations with way different champions. The NWA to me, always had a very technically sound champion. Sure, some of them cheated, but for the most part they could get it done in the ring. Flair in his prime, was just amazing with almost everyone he wrestled. Hogan just seemed to me to usher in the cartoon era, and it didn't matter that he only seemed to know a handful of moves, he was so over with the kids, he was it. Of course, he could wrestle, watching his work in Japan proves he can work...not like Flair, but he could work. I don't know if he just dumbed it down for the Hulk character in the WWF or just felt like he didn't need to show moves in his style.
I know Steamboat did tours of Japan, but I don't think he ever stayed long enough to be considered having the title put on him. That would have been awesome though.
I don't know who the two guys and the girl are.
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Post by NDX on Aug 10, 2013 19:40:27 GMT -5
The Kings of Wrestling, Claudio Castagnoli and Chris Hero. Now wrestling in the 'E as Antonio Cesaro and Kassius Ohno (KO!, still in developmental). Amazing wrestlers, some of the best the indies had to offer. The center is the Queen of Wrestling, master of the Royal Butterfly and head women's trainer in WWE Development Sara Del Ray. Probably the best female wrestler on the indies at one point.
Look up some of their matches. You won't regret it.
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Post by endo on Aug 10, 2013 20:21:24 GMT -5
I'll do that. Didn't know they were in the WWE.
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Post by NDX on Aug 10, 2013 20:30:06 GMT -5
Oh yeah, Cesaro is one of the best midcard talents technically, but is being held back by a ish gimmick. His match with Bryan a few weeks ago will help him break out of that, I feel. He was a beast in that match, and they need to continue to book him like that.
European uppercuts everywhere.
Kassius Ohno has had some great matches in NXT, he's only still down there because he needs to hit the gym more. In the indies, though, he's had some amazing matches, from his days as his goofy self to playing up his gimmick as That Young Knockout Kid (thus his chosen name as Kassius Ohno, or KO!).
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Post by endo on Aug 10, 2013 20:33:18 GMT -5
I may have seen Cesaro now that you mention the European uppercuts. He looks really stiff with them, if I have the right guy, but they're sold well so I can only assume he's really good at making it look good.
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Post by NDX on Aug 10, 2013 20:35:58 GMT -5
He is the king of the European. Because he's... Very European. Man, I nearly shat myself I marked out so hard for those repeated uppercuts to Bryan. 18 of them, nearly took his head off. And one of my favorite moves of his, the Pop-Up European, or the Swiss Death, is a killer move.
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Post by endo on Aug 10, 2013 20:51:39 GMT -5
I gotta look this fella up.
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Post by gorepolice on Aug 10, 2013 21:54:19 GMT -5
Cesaro does have a terrible gimmick. I wish he would go back to being Very European so the E could see the guy does in fact have a personality. I think he needs to do a few less rest holds too honestly. If he wrestles the way he did against Bryan and Kofi Kingston (or rather, is given more opportunities too), he could easily be a top guy.
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Post by NDX on Aug 10, 2013 22:06:35 GMT -5
That's the problem, they need to let him just be him. He could easily be a top level heel in no time if they just let him go at it.
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Post by gorepolice on Aug 10, 2013 22:09:41 GMT -5
It's a shame that he went from having such an awesome run with the US Title to teaming up with the Black Hole of Excitement that is Jack Thwagger. Let him knock around some smaller guys like he did before and I'll bet the crowd really gets back into him.
Also, you took a lot of the words out of my mouth with saying how right a lot of those belts look on certain wrestlers. One question though, what is that red belt Show is holding?
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Post by NDX on Aug 10, 2013 22:13:54 GMT -5
Looks like the old WWF Light Heavyweight title.
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Post by endo on Aug 10, 2013 22:20:42 GMT -5
That's the one, I guess that's why it was made. No way Show would ever hold the Light Heavyweight title, lol.
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Post by NDX on Aug 10, 2013 22:25:23 GMT -5
Would be hilarious if they booked a loophole where he could compete and win, and then just runs through the light heavyweights week after week, sometimes two, three or four of them.
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